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pmip3:wg:ppc:index [2013/12/05 14:18]
lunt [Questions to be addressed]
pmip3:wg:ppc:index [2014/11/08 21:23]
lunt [Members]
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 __What is needed for experimental design – paleogeographies and CO2 primarily – what datasets can we use?__ __What is needed for experimental design – paleogeographies and CO2 primarily – what datasets can we use?__
 +  * //MH: a full set of early Eocene boundary conditions submitted to Geoscientific Model Development which will be freely available (Nick Herold is spearheading this). It will include topo,​bathymetry,​veg,​ tidal dissipation,​ and aerosol forcing files at 1°x1° among other parameters. ​ the DEM is based on a merging of Markwick'​s topo and Mueller'​s bathy/​rotations.... it should include everything necessary setting up a coupled GCM run (nothing is turnkey of course, but all the fundamentals are there). ​ hopefully it might provide a basis for future intercomparison efforts and provide a baseline for subsequent modification or comparison. ​ the necessary scripts for rotation the topo/veg to earlier and later time intevals (say 65 and 35mya) will also be provided... Once the article is submitted, we will make it available for perusal and criticism...//​
  
 __What are the best datasets for model-data comparisons,​ and how can these be improved?__ __What are the best datasets for model-data comparisons,​ and how can these be improved?__
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 __What are the best methodologies for model-data comparisons (close collaboration with the [[pmip3:​wg:​p2f:​index|Past2Future]] working group)__ __What are the best methodologies for model-data comparisons (close collaboration with the [[pmip3:​wg:​p2f:​index|Past2Future]] working group)__
   * //GF: I think a radical way to do this would be to move away from simple difference to modern type  studies that have been done to date, instead we could try to look across a number of natural warming events and see whether the models capture the warming the geological record shows. ​ So for instance, pre, peak and post PETM, MECO and EECO - do the models show similar trajectories to the data?  CO2 would be much better constrained this way and so will the SSTs (e.g. most of the TEX86 uncertainty in your Eocene paper is due to calibration,​ for these shorter time periods you could use delta T change which is largely independent of calibration).// ​   * //GF: I think a radical way to do this would be to move away from simple difference to modern type  studies that have been done to date, instead we could try to look across a number of natural warming events and see whether the models capture the warming the geological record shows. ​ So for instance, pre, peak and post PETM, MECO and EECO - do the models show similar trajectories to the data?  CO2 would be much better constrained this way and so will the SSTs (e.g. most of the TEX86 uncertainty in your Eocene paper is due to calibration,​ for these shorter time periods you could use delta T change which is largely independent of calibration).// ​
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 +__How can we fund this?__
 +  * // DS: SCOR: http://​www.scor-int.org/​wkgrpinfo.htm ?//
 +  * // BO: PAGES.//
 ===== Members ===== ===== Members =====
  
 +Eleni Anagnostou\\
 Paul Baker\\ Paul Baker\\
 Bas de Boer\\ Bas de Boer\\
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 Yannick Donnadieu\\ Yannick Donnadieu\\
 Tom Dunkley Jones\\ Tom Dunkley Jones\\
 +Kirsty Edgar\\
 Alex Farnsworth\\ Alex Farnsworth\\
 Gavin Foster\\ Gavin Foster\\
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 Matt Huber\\ Matt Huber\\
 Nick Hulton\\ Nick Hulton\\
 +Jasmin John\\
 Petra Langebroek\\ Petra Langebroek\\
 David Lea\\ David Lea\\
 Carrie Lear\\ Carrie Lear\\
 +Kate Littler\\
 Gerrit Lohmann\\ Gerrit Lohmann\\
 Dan Lunt\\ Dan Lunt\\
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 "​CenoMIP"​ \\ "​CenoMIP"​ \\
 Phanerozoic MIP "​PhanMIP"​\\ Phanerozoic MIP "​PhanMIP"​\\
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 +===== Freely available Paleogeographies =====
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 +This is a list of freely-available,​ global, digital (i.e. in electronic format), paleogeographies (including both topography and bathymetry) of the pre-Pliocene,​ of which we are aware:\\
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 +**Early Eocene:​** ​ Herold et al (2014). ​ Available from: http://​www.geosci-model-dev-discuss.net/​7/​529/​2014/​gmdd-7-529-2014-discussion.html\\
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 +**Middle Miocene:** Herold et al (2008). ​ Available from: http://​roskilde.eas.purdue.edu/​~nick/​data/​topo02_2deg.grd \\ 
 +and vegetation from: http://​roskilde.eas.purdue.edu/​~nick/​data/​veg02_0.3.grd \\ More information from: http://​roskilde.eas.purdue.edu/​~nick/​datasets.htm
  
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